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English Warrior · Jan 07, 2008, 04:42 PM // 16:42

Hi as you may have noticed AB is no longer for getting faction if Luxons/Kurzicks wants faction they FFF because theres too many nubs at this i think we should start to step up and make AB more popular and get better matches who with me?

Lima · Jan 07, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

Well in what way would you say AB is going downhill? Cuz personally i don't think there's anything wrong with it, you say there are too many 'nubs' playing it, but that's gonna be the same no matter what changes you make... and if inexperienced people want to play then that's fair enough, they have to learn somewhere. As you said if people want faction they FFF, leaving AB for more of a chilled out PvP.

ThisIsMadness · Jan 07, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Define 'nub'/'noob'

I very much doubt a noob would even be in PvP let alone AB, took me awhile to learn that when I started.

Everyone perception of a noob is different, and I don't get why the word is so widely used.

I've been AB'ing for awhile and I haven't noticed anything different since I started.

The odd mob and few cappers is usual but people get sidetracked no matter how experience you are.

Abomination · Jan 07, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Would a "noob" be someone who just uses very un-conventional builds?
and it doesn't really matter in the end. If you've read the AB guide on here,
you can only rely on yourself, not your teammates to get anything done.

hippo942 · Jan 07, 2008, 05:06 PM // 17:06

it would make it better if u could get more faction from them as the only reason ppl do FFF is because it is faster and alot of guilds have daily req's they have to achieve

ShadowsRequiem · Jan 07, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Welcome to AB its been like this since it was first released...

So whats your problem again?

Frantic-Sheep · Jan 07, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Nothing wrong with AB, its as whacky and non-serious as ever. Go there for a laugh and some fun with friends.. cant see any problem there

Alex Morningstar · Jan 07, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00

AB has always been the place to go when PvErs want to PvP. That isn't necessarily the problem though. The problem is people want to do whatever they want and/or there is a shortage of effective leaders. It's always grab 4 and go, no communication, no "hey, stay together and cap" or whatever the strategy of the moment is.

No strategy.

Agent Mold3r · Jan 07, 2008, 07:02 PM // 19:02

AB for me is just for fun nowadays, when a group of guildies feel like pwning, we just hop into an AB match. Can't complain.

Syntonic · Jan 07, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Haven't really noticed a trend for the worse though there was a short period of time where most bars I saw were fairly decent for a change. Despite the popularity of the lower tiers of PvP and the complaints that the other PvP formats are sparsely populated, it doesn't seem like there's much of a push to get those people into the other formats of PvP. Granted, the fault perhaps lies halfway with the player base anyway. One side of the camp screams "elitism" and the other side screams "nub" so it hasn't and probably never will get anywhere.

Edge Martinez · Jan 07, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Morningstar

The problem is people want to do whatever they want and/or there is a shortage of effective leaders. It's always grab 4 and go, no communication, no "hey, stay together and cap" or whatever the strategy of the moment is.

No strategy.

Yeah, but just as often you start with a lance of 4 people, but it isn't until 2 or 3 minutes into the game that you 'find' your true lance. I'll often find myself paired in a capping group with 4 jockeys from 3 lances. It works out the same. You lose some communication, but in general these people who group up on the fly have been playing for awhile, know the importance of capping, and don't really need to talk/type much.

If anything is nub, I think it might be the Dervishes that are playing. I can't think of a better class to play AB with, but the ones I see are playing them so... bad.

iridescentfyre · Jan 07, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abomination

Would a "noob" be someone who just uses very un-conventional builds?

In theory, no, its okay to be unconventional. However the nature of the game is simply that if a build is good, it gets used.. a lot. The idea of a "unique" build that's any good doesn't really match the nature of the game very well.

But the problem with the builds used by most random AB'ers is that they're--at best--bad and less effective than what is possible, and at worst a seemingly random arrangement of skills and attribute levels. Whether its conventional or not isn't the issue.

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Originally Posted by Abomination

and it doesn't really matter in the end. If you've read the AB guide on here,
you can only rely on yourself, not your teammates to get anything done.

That's just the depressing reality of it. Getting a good group that you can rely on is always going to be preferable and more successful. It does happen.. every so often.

NecroticChanter · Jan 08, 2008, 03:54 AM // 03:54

AB isn't going downhill, it's always like this. About noobs, they appear on both sides not just one. Usually when I encounter a noob on my team, I just leave the group.

Or if it's a whole team of noobs, I get my team of guildies to just meet back at the gh. I came here to win not waste my time with noobs. Btw, have u tried going with guildies? They're usually not noobs.

Riotgear · Jan 08, 2008, 09:34 AM // 09:34

I have a question: When was AB ever going uphill?

Turbobusa · Jan 08, 2008, 09:38 AM // 09:38

You won't get a capping group if you just think that everyone sucks there. Get a cold shower and try to find a group that is willing to cap. Thats not rare at all.
And yes there is strategy. If you don't play with strategy in AB, you just suck, and you're no better than the noobs you're describing.
AB is not going downhill. You just had a bad experience with pugs or whatever. Get in a good AB guild if you really want to, you'll find it way easier.

Lykan · Jan 08, 2008, 12:36 PM // 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThisIsMadness

Define 'nub'/'noob'

you know the people that are shouting 'omg suxons LULZ' or 'kurz Suck!' at the start of every match?

well...

payne · Jan 08, 2008, 12:53 PM // 12:53

so? its fun...always a laugh to mess around with builds...its very laid-back with no-one taking it seriously(why I like it) granted it is full of noobs / newbs..so? running stupid builds is fun occasionally and its the one place in PvP you will not be flamed for doing something unconventional...AB has always been going downhill...but people still enjoy it because its fun and a laugh running as a EoE bomber ^^ always a laugh...enjoy AB for its randomness and don't hate it for being full of nubs = easy balth faction ftw

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Originally Posted by KazeMitsui

since its mainly pve scrubs who only know how to pve and nothing else

ahem...that makes me a scrub that knows nothing about PvE? hm...top 150 GvG exp and high-rank HA begs to differ thanks....sweeping comments = bad

Cold Hearted Zero · Jan 08, 2008, 01:27 PM // 13:27

i went in with as a wammo just for the hell of it

healing breeze, mending, infuse health, woh, Sever Artery, gash, rush and 1 more i cant remember. both me and my team which consisted of friends had a good laugh, what surprised me tho is how many ppl i actually managed to kill

Kissable Krissy · Jan 08, 2008, 01:52 PM // 13:52

I don't think AB is going downhill, except that the wait is atrocious ARGH!

AB is a play to mess around and have some fun. When I go, I go with my boyfriend and 2 other friends and we sit on vent and laugh at everyone while we try to upset the other team as much as possible. It is our goal to get the other team so mad at us that they start whining about us in all chat.

Yes we have a strategy that wins matches, but for us it is about blowing off some steam in something non-serious.

17eIvIoN · Jan 08, 2008, 02:06 PM // 14:06

lolz AB is a great place to practice running, and just general random killing for fun, it is the cross between pve/pvp ^ ^